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| Topic Started: May 8 2009, 01:08 PM (1,088 Views) | |
| Voyevoda | May 8 2009, 01:08 PM Post #1 |
RIP to the king of pop
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Yeah, I didn't see any thread about this game. I think it deserves one since out of all the other games, it looks the most promising. I'm gonna borrow what Khatib posted a while back. -- STAR WARS: THE OLD REPUBLIC -- http://www.swtor.com Star Wars: The Old Republic was confirmed to be in production in July of 2008 after a year of rumors surrounding Bioware and how it was supposedly working on Star Wars IP. Bioware has chosen to use the HeroEngine a robust engine designed to develop MMO games. SW:TOR is the first AAA title to use the highly touted engine, which includes collaborative tools that allow developers to update the game in real-time simultaneously. Currently announced as PC only title there isn't any speculation that it will be released on any consoles. What we know so far: Confirmed Classes Bounty Hunter Sith Jedi Trooper Rumored Classes (so far) None Setting 300 Years after KOTOR, 3,500 years before the Star Wars films Plot The writing team is said to include 12 full-time writers, based on videos and interviews the core story seams to revolve around skirmishes between the Jedi and Sith. After losing control of Coruscant, the Jedi and Sith have operated under an uneasy truce, which is now bordering on collapse. This of course leads to speculation about PVP and zone control, but this hasn't really been discussed at this time. Story BioWare claims that each class will have its own distinct storyline integrated with the overall game storyarc. Other quotes have mentioned that no class will share quests with any other class. Planets It is said players will have access to many planets, so far only four have been mentioned in any detail: Coruscant, Tython, Korriban and Hutta Planets that have been mentioned but have had no further detail: Alderran, Utapau, Agamar, Dathomir, and Manaan. Leveling It has not yet been confirmed if character advancement will Level- or Skill-based or some hybrid. Media Threat of Peace Web Comic: http://www.swtor.com/media/webcomic Latest Video Documentary: http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/video-documentary-2 LinksThanks, Enjoy Everything October 21, 2008 IGN post-announcement article(includes information on the companion system and mentions of many story arcs) October 21, 2008 Gamespot post-announcement article(Interview with Lead Designer and some info on the origin of the project, EA's involvement and what they've been doing for the last two years) October 22, 2008 October Kotaku Info Summary and Interview with Lead Writer Daniel Erickson (information on quest philosophy, minor information crafting and where the writing staff is going) |
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| Casino | Jun 20 2009, 09:12 PM Post #21 |
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Have they said if the combat would be turned based? |
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| Sephs | Jun 20 2009, 09:56 PM Post #22 |
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i seriously doubt theyd make it turn based |
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| Voyevoda | Jun 21 2009, 05:23 PM Post #23 |
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RIP to the king of pop
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I don't think so. |
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| Voyevoda | Jun 24 2009, 01:08 AM Post #24 |
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RIP to the king of pop
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The Old Republic Gameplay Footage ALPHA FOOTAGE http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/the-old-republic-gameplay/321362 Only being released for PC, no consoles * Seems that the Game has PvE Mode and a PvP Mode - SifiWire * Graphics are great and smooth - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews * The interface seems standardised. Hot keys on a UI Bar. - 1UP * The Majority of the Game can be done without Any help from anyone else - StarWarsMMO Demo * Space Experience will be in game, its still being worked on - Machinima * Subtitles for alien speech. - EuroGamer * BioWare is currently indicating that it will be unwilling to let players skip or read dialogue scenes- EuroGamer * The UI Can be customised!- StarWarsMMO * Naming Filters include not being able to have numbers, special characters or Star Wars names - StarWarsMMO Demo * Full Voice overs for all NPC, Companions and some extent our characters (There is a mention in one of the reviews about some text, maybe just during the selection, it was not too clear.) * Some voice overs being done by cast members of Battlestar Galatica - Kokaku * The voiceovers seem to be done by good actors not Fred the Cleaner (If anyone has played Culling of Strath in WoW 3rd boss, you will know what I mean) * There is mention of a Player Driven Economy in the review from Joystiq. * No grinding - Destructoid review. * 8 Classes confirmed (During Gamespot Interview) * They are looking into seperate servers for PvP, RP etc as an option. - StarWarsMMO * They are trying to make TOR available to People with a mix of PC quality Old and New- StarWarsMMO * PvP, Auction House, Raiding and an Economy all confirmed on video by a Dev: ZAM * The Game is fully operational now Gophn.com * Localised instancing - When getting/handing in a quest you are the only one at NPC - MMOGAMER Characters: * Characters maybe planet locked for a period based on gameplay mechanics (BH needs to get a Hutts help to get off the planet, Smuggler has no ship (Its been stolen) * Still no mention of non-human playable races. * Bounty Hunters start on Hutta - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews * Bounty Hunters Story Arc is called 'The Great Hunt' - SifiWire * Bounty Hunters as well as ranged can do hand to hand combat plus dirty tricks - SifiWire * Smuggler starts on Ord Mantell - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews * Characters can Jump!- StarwarsMMO * Multiple Voices for Player Characters so that when we respond they do not all sound the same - StarwarsMMO Demo * Full Body and Facial expressions while speaking - StarWarsMMO Demo * Information on races other than Human coming soon - StarWarsMMO * Character customization * Other classes will get the Cover ability, but maybe not as effective. * Player Characters have some intresting moves.. Smuggler (knee NPC in nuts and shoot them in the head) * Mixed Party Quests, If a Smuggler and Jedi group to go do the Smuggler quest line there will be quests for the Jedi to do while helping Smuggler - MMOGAmer * Dialog selection via a Mass Effect Style Dialog wheel - GameSutra * There is an END to each classes Story with new content to extend each story- MMOGamer * The more Dark/Light Side you go you gain access to more abilities that lean towards that calling that going the other way denies you. - GameSutra Combat: * No Auto Attack - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews * Combat is fast paced (Almost Console Speed) - TenTonHammer * Enemies fall fast and come quick, and the pace of action is consistent.- EuroGamer * Cooldowns on the skills were very short, and the skills themselves were swift, immediate- EuroGamer * TOR is NOT going for normal MMO Combat but Star Wars Combat (2.43 on vid)- Gamespot 17th June * Special moves seem to require points similar to Rogue in WoW. (If you are not sure what I mean read further in this post, its explained) * Players seem to be able to take on 1 to 4 NPCs at the same time. - Destructoid StarWarsMMO * Combat seems to be more fluid and dynamic (not too sure what they were refering to by maybe queuing moves?) * Duel use of Lightsabers shown. - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews * There is mention of the Sith soaking up damage and causing agro. Possible hint to a Tanking class? * While seeing the Combat in the Flaspoint its seemed very like Battlefront with 10 vs 2 combat - StarWarsMMO Demo * When engaging NPCs the NPC switched from Ranged to Melee as the Players got closer - StarWarsMMO Demo * Combat was more fluid not stiff like KOTRO - StarWarsMMO Demo * The Sith was Auto deflecting Blaster Bolts during the Flaspoint - StarWarsMMO Demo Flashpoints/Loot: * Loot seems to be based on Light/Darkside as well as class. * End Game Content like Raiding is available if players do not want to re roll- MMOGamer * Looting is the standard Loot types in other MMOs - StarWarsMMO * Choices in Flashpoints can change the course of the instance. Kill a NPC and 'A' happens.. do not kill and 'B' happens. - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews * Flashpoints can be done solo or grouped. * Group decisions in Flashpoints (Its mentioned that BW are still working on how to apply LS/DS points depending on outcome). * PvP loot mentioned as loot in the gamespot Smuggler interview. * Loot sets also seem to be in game, possible mutliple PvP sets mentioned - Gamespot Smuggler * The Group decisions seem to work like the LOTRO Combo Combat function, you get little time to decide what you want to do. A selection of outcomes appear and you have to decide fast. * Multiple different outfits per class- TenTonHammer (watch vid) ALPHA FOOTAGE: Long way to go still guys, don't have a cow! |
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| Sephs | Jun 24 2009, 07:31 PM Post #25 |
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this game is gonna shit on all other upcoming MMOs |
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| Voyevoda | Jun 24 2009, 11:42 PM Post #26 |
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RIP to the king of pop
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Yeah it's going to rape big time. My guess is bioware is going to use warhammer as a test ground for some of their ideas. Most of the people at mythic seem to enjoy leaving war behind and going to work on old republic. SWTOR has two main things going for it (the same way Blizzard did): 1. A setting that already has millions of fans 2. A developer that has millions of fans |
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| Sephs | Jun 25 2009, 08:41 AM Post #27 |
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u forgot force lightning i fking love star wars |
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| Khatib | Jul 3 2009, 01:50 PM Post #28 |
You so CRAAZZYY!!
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If by that you mean it's gonna be a shit MMO, then yes. Everything I'm reading says this thing is going to be theme parky as fuck. More single player than multiplayer. More WoW "1-59" than WoW, so to speak. Edited by Khatib, Jul 3 2009, 01:51 PM.
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| Voyevoda | Jul 3 2009, 01:58 PM Post #29 |
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RIP to the king of pop
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Go fucken play mortal online then faggot. This game is the next big thing, the only game that can go against blizzards next mmo. You old school fuckers can piss off, go play warhammer again and brag about how awesome the game. Bioware does not make shitty games and they are doing some amazing things with this game. Stop crying about the game when they are trying something new and not sticking to the whole wow clone shit like warhammer. Edited by Voyevoda, Jul 3 2009, 01:58 PM.
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| Sephs | Jul 3 2009, 04:08 PM Post #30 |
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perfect everything post BC was a big pile of shit anyways |
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| Khatib | Jul 3 2009, 04:11 PM Post #31 |
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You so CRAAZZYY!!
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Hahaha, settle down there chief. I especially like that you were so blinded by rage, it apparently took you 7 minutes with the reply window open to write that little two sentence rant, as you somehow missed my edit in your quote. 1 - I will go give MO a shot. Didn't need your permission to in the first place. 2 - This is going to be the "WoW killer," huh? I don't really see it. As I said in the other thread. People sit and fuck off in WoW long after they're tired of it because it's where their friends are. This game won't change that. Half the people playing WoW won't have a rig that can handle a brand new MMO and won't upgrade for one when they can just keep fucking off in WoW with it's endless level cap raising expansions. 3 - Go back to WAR and brag about how awesome it is? I thought I sucked because I didn't play WAR for 60 hours a week? Now it's that I played it too much? I'm so confused with which way the elitism runs on this forum. You guys need to stop flip flopping. Feel free to check my post history. I've never had much praise for WAR. It's another theme park piece of shit, just like WoW. Feel free to show me anywhere that I've said otherwise. 4 - Bioware has made some good games. But have they ever made an MMO? What is their specialty exactly? Ah yes, single player RPGs. What did I just say was going to be the problem with their Star Wars MMO project? It looks like all the focus is on single player storyline and "epic quests" which of course will just be more bullshit like the Alliance Ony key chain. Where you find out that "holy shit! the queen in stormwind is actually a fucking EVIL DRAGON!!?!?!" And then every day for the rest of the time you're playing that game and you run past that NPC, it's just the queen chilling there as if no one ever found that out, even though pretty much every single player who's played the game in any way seriously has found that out. That's what this entire star wars game will be. A bunch of bullshit "epic quests" that don't have jack shit at all for effect on the server in any way. Just one great resetting instance of a game. That's what it's going to be and that's why it'll be a shit MMO. And like I said -- even more WoW than WoW. The whole game will be running from quest NPC to quest NPC, picking up quests, but barely if at all, skimming the actual storyline behind the quest. From your own post -- " Localised instancing - When getting/handing in a quest you are the only one at NPC - MMOGAMER" Boy! That sure sounds like one MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER GAME RIGHT THERE. The kind where you play ALL BY YOURSELF half the fucking time. 5 - So what amazing things are they doing exactly? Class based system? Nothing new there. Loot based on light/dark (aka faction)? Nothing new there. Instances? Nothing new there. Raid content? Nothing new there. No auto attack? Nothing new there. Customizable UI? Nothing new there. Star Wars as the backdrop for an MMO? Nothing new there. NPC voiceovers? Nothing new there. Jeez, I can't wait for all these HUGE new features! 6 - Crying about the game? You're the one with the panties all in a bunch. I just made a statement on how they are going hardcore theme park with nary a hint of sandbox in this game at all. Sandbox MMOs = better MMOs. 7 - Believe me, this game will be 110% more WoW clone than something like MO, Aion, Earthrise, Black Prophecy, JG:E or several other upcoming titles. WoW clone isn't about art direction and story setting. It's about gameplay. And the gameplay in this game will be quite identical in style to WoW from every single thing I've read about it. You gotta get over your faggy little persecution complex of "Oh noes! Khatib is out to get me and everything I post about!" and just fucking read shit logically and realize your knee-jerk bullshit is fucking stupid reactionary crap and you have no idea what you're talking out of your ass about. Edited by Khatib, Jul 3 2009, 04:14 PM.
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| Khatib | Jul 3 2009, 04:23 PM Post #32 |
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You so CRAAZZYY!!
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And in all honesty, I want this game to be good. Ever since the year and a half I spent playing SWG, I have a serious hard on for all things Star Wars. It is just looking like they are going the wrong direction with it, imo. |
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| Sephs | Jul 3 2009, 09:02 PM Post #33 |
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STFU KHATIB FORCE LIGHTNING FORCE LIGHTNING UNLIMITED POWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
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| Ninjerk | Jul 4 2009, 11:58 AM Post #34 |
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After playing Mass Effect (having played KoTOR and NWN), I'm wondering how Bioware will remix those games into this one. |
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| Voyevoda | Jul 4 2009, 02:53 PM Post #35 |
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RIP to the king of pop
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I was watching Burn notice and got distracted. At the end of the day atleast I got hair. wtf are u talking about. I don't care if u play it or not. This is "next blizzard mmo" killer. http://umbrellaofwar.com/topic/7071720/1/ you crying about people leaving War. http://umbrellaofwar.com/topic/7090423/5/#new You arguing about why i'm an idiot. I could also find couple other post where you attack people when they say WAR sucks. Blizzard had no experience when they made wow and still made a great game. Bioware has mythic to help them if they needed it. Faggot the game is in pre alpha... we don't know shit about it yet. It's the first mmo that has full voice acting. w/e whore I'm just saying you can't judge the game when it's still so early. They haven't released shit about the gameplay yet. You're the faggot that takes eveything so serious. I'm just saying this game is going to be awesome. Edited by Voyevoda, Jul 4 2009, 02:55 PM.
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| Khatib | Jul 4 2009, 08:22 PM Post #36 |
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You so CRAAZZYY!!
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Which of those is me saying WAR is an awesome game? I was more just ripping on all the random pre-launch fags who joined the guild then felt like they should keep hanging around here even though they bailed on the tag the second the transfer thing opened up. And yet they're still hanging around here...
That's highly debatable. Are you still playing it? If not, why not when it's such a great MMO? I won't deny it was a fun game to play through the first time leveling up. But I'll make many an argument that it was a poor MMO, the end game was most definitely weak at launch, and that they turned a 180 on their playerbase after everything they promised up to and through launch with the end game that they ended up putting in and continuing on with through the expansions. MMOs aren't supposed to play like a single player game where you pick it up, level through it, hit max level and then start again to try it a different way or quit altogether. And yet, for the most part, that's how WoW plays. A good MMO is about community and player interaction, and should hold people for several years without issue, based more on player created content and conflict than developer created quests.
So we know nothing about it, but we know they're doing AMAZING things?? P.S. AoC promised full voice acting. At release, they had voice acting on every single quest through about lvl 20, which is pretty much the "single player" chunk of the game. Voiceovers on a large scale in MMOs are nothing new. If you want to nitpick and say the fact that they are doing it on the WHOLE game is an AMAZING new feature, I'm just going to have to disagree with you on the amazing part. And really the new part even. That's like saying WoW was a huge innovator, when all they did was take a dozen things other games had been doing well and combined them. They didn't innovate shit. Then again, what would you know about MMO diversity and what all the options really are? You've only played WoW with any real longevity, and then your short stint in WAR, which is basically WoW v2. And let's go back to my initial criticism of the game, shall we? What was it again? That this game was going to over focus on single player aspects. So what's so awesome about NPCs having voice overs in an MMO? Shouldn't your interactions be with OTHER PEOPLE? Oh wait, no that's right, this game is going to be all about theme parking the shit out of it, so you'll be talking to NPCs more than other players. Thank god they put those voice overs in so it feels like you're actually interacting with people when all you're doing is playing a single player RPG online...
And yet you have judged it to be the next Blizzard killer? And are talking about all these AMAZING THINGS they are doing with this game? By the way, if you want to seem like you're not losing this argument, you should probably hold back on random faggot and whore leadins and just state your point. The random insult attempts make you come off as pretty desperate, and make your argument sound like it's coming from a begrudged 12 year old. If your opinions were any good on their own, you'd do fine with just them, and it'd be that much easier for everyone to read. Trust me when I say I'm not insulted and you're just wasting your time. I've been called worse (or at least things much much more creative) by far better.
But I thought we didn't have any REAL information to judge it on yet? Petty argument shit aside -- read this part seriously and tell me what you think: This game will probably be a lot of fun to pick up and start playing. But once you've done all your leveling, what do you expect to hold you to this game? What do you expect to make it any different than WoW, where you level up, hit cap, do all the dungeons they have in a dozen times each, and then run around doing pointless |
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| Sephs | Jul 4 2009, 09:11 PM Post #37 |
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LIGHTNING KHATIB LIGHT NING |
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| Voyevoda | Jul 6 2009, 03:12 PM Post #38 |
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RIP to the king of pop
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Friends and a good guild would keep me around for a long time. If Bioware is smart they will have a decent endgame ready at launch too. If you don't like leveling and dungeons why are you playing MMO to began with. I like no death penalties so HELL YEAH NIGGA. You make it sound like WOW is a bad game. I would have never left wow if my old guild didn't break up. It's all about community for me when it come to MMO. You might think your elite or something cuz you played all the old school mmo's but all i care about is if the game is fun. |
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| Khatib | Jul 9 2009, 11:49 PM Post #39 |
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You so CRAAZZYY!!
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WoW's community is shit. What community did you have in WoW outside of your guild? None, or you wouldn't have quit when your guild broke up. A real community spans the server, spans the warring factions, and goes far beyond just your guild. And there is far, far more to MMOs than leveling and instanced dungeons. Like non-level based games, which are better, and non-instanced content, which especially in PvP enabled games, is WAY better. |
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| Voyevoda | Jul 10 2009, 12:17 AM Post #40 |
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RIP to the king of pop
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Wow community was awesome the first 2 years. I might have been just my server but the horde community in my server was so small that it was like one big guild. Sadly AQ ruined everything.....god I hate that fucken place. I pvped with ALOT of other guild. The guild I was in was more pve then pvp even tho we had 5 HW. Don't ask a question and then answer negro. Edited by Voyevoda, Jul 10 2009, 12:18 AM.
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